In the description of tents here in the site you will see the terms like a catenary cut or perimeter cut, so what is this really, what is catenary cut tent floor? I give a short description here so that I can use it tents’ reviews as a reference.
Catenary cut or perimeter cut vs bathtub tent floor
In the catenary cut, you have the tent’s floor and the walls’ material as separate pieces that are connected and stitched to each other along the perimeter of the floor. So from this, you realize why the term perimeter cut is used. One example of such a design you can see in this Coleman 8 Person Instant Camping Tent. Though the two terms are not synonyms in the strict sense; the catenary is a natural shape of a fabric or rope when it is fixed at its ends, while the meaning of the perimeter should be obvious.
On the other hand, in a bathtub floor design, the floor material goes above the perimeter, and you have seams along a line which can be 10 – 20 cm above the ground. In most cases, you can notice it because of the difference in the colors of the floor and the walls, see it for example here in the Coleman Red Canyon 8 Tent.
It is believed that such a design is better in the sense that you have fewer seams on the ground so the chances for leaking are reduced. But even in such a case, the floor usually has seams somewhere in its area, so there is no guarantee for a fully waterproof floor.
So in the catenary cut the edges are straight and typically this implies a better-defined floor area, while in the bathtub case you have a rather loose profile around the perimeter, and this in particular when there are no many stake-out points around the perimeter.
In some tents, you can have them both. For example along the longer sides you have the perimeter cut, and along the shorter sides you have a bathtub shape.
In fact, the catenary cut itself raises the seams above the ground, so it may act as the bathtub design. This is because of the natural shape of the fabric when fixed at the two ends, as I mentioned above. You can see it in practice in this Sierra Design’s small tent, it is at 0:58 in the video:
So which is better?
I do not think that there is a definite answer. If the tent floor has no seams in its main body (this is more likely to have in smaller tents), then it is better to have peripheral seams above the ground. So this would imply the bathtub style design. But in large family camp tents, you have a huge floor area and it is unlikely that it would be without seams; and perimeter seams would not make much difference in any case.
A catenary cut floor is a better design regarding the wind flapping, which is not only annoying and it may keep you awake, but it also makes stresses on the fabric and stitches.
So in general, with perimeter seams raised above the ground, you have a better waterproofness, while taut side seams imply a better wind protection and less flapping.
I shall be happy to hear from you if you can add some thoughts on this issue, there is a comment box below.
So what would be a good 10 person instant tent with bathtub floor? I’m loosing my mind trying to find the right tent for my family. Lighting would be but not a deal breaker since you can add them fairly simple to any tent. I like a screen room as well although I’m begging to think some of the screen room tents are really just a vestibule, but some that have the t shaped door on the end where the screen room is actually inside the tent would be better in that regard. So basically I know what I want just haven’t found it. 10 (or 9) person, instant tent lighted l, bathtub floor, with interior screen room ability. Is there such a thing????
Hi Josh.
In fact, I am not sure what kind of screen room you want, with floor or without floor. It seems you want it to be with floor, like an extra room with screen walls when needed. If this is what you need I can suggest you these:
– Coleman Skylodge 10-Person Instant Camping Tent With Screen Room
– Ozark Trail Instant Cabin Tent with Built in Cabin Lights.
Yes that is what I mean. Screen room with floor like the ozark trail you linked. But it doesn’t have a tub floor?? The one like the ozark trail is what I’m liking the most. Core has the 9 person lighted instant tent (14’x9’) (same lay out as the ozark trail) but there again I don’t think core has a tub floor? Which leads me to Coleman, I think and correct me if I’m wrong but most all the Coleman tents have a tub floor? And while I’m thinking about it what do you think about the newer core 10 person with the full rain fly? I like the full fly it offers but I don’t believe it is screen room capable?? Thanks for helping me here. Josh
Some of these tents from Core have so large windows with mesh that they are the same as having a screen room, you would not experience any difference. One great example is this CORE 10 Person Lighted Instant Cabin Tent.
Correct for the 9-person Core tent, this is not a bathtub. The Coleman is indeed a bathtub design and this would be what you want.
As for the new Core with a full fly, this is not even close to screen room design, so this is not what you wanted, but those are very good tents.
Alright, it’s just a harder decision than it should be. Thanks for your insight and the time you invest doing your write ups. I haven’t found any site that compares.